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Re: Thread about nothing #2
« Reply #13620 on: November 22, 2008, 09:53:30 PM »
Randall (or anybody): how familiar are you with the chain of supply in the gun biz?
Most common way
Is it:
Manufacturer - > Distributor -> Dealer -> Retail
or
MFG -> Dlr -> Retail

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Re: Thread about nothing #2
« Reply #13621 on: November 22, 2008, 09:55:15 PM »
IIRC, isnt it only a crime to sell them, not buy them?

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Re: Thread about nothing #2
« Reply #13622 on: November 22, 2008, 09:58:04 PM »
IIRC, isnt it only a crime to sell them, not buy them?
my understanding is its a little more complicated then that due to conspiracy laws
we however had no intent to purchase complete mags so I don't think it would have been an issue
still stupid though

Nice mags though
I'll toss the followers in the trash of course

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Re: Thread about nothing #2
« Reply #13623 on: November 22, 2008, 10:01:50 PM »
J&R in Livermore is my new favorite gun shop

Did you get a shotty there?
Did you say Shotty? :o

here is the list, I still need to get this stuff.

Stainless barrel (for shooting lead bullets)
Bomar rear sight
Dawson fiber optic front sight
Glock extended slide release
JP extended magazine release
3.5lb connector
reduced power striker spring
stock striker lightened by about 40%
extra power trigger spring
 Dawson heavy magazine well

I have everything for the benelli now.
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Re: Thread about nothing #2
« Reply #13624 on: November 22, 2008, 10:04:50 PM »
and it only takes seconds to disassemble

doesn't sound good, PM the details??

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Re: Thread about nothing #2
« Reply #13625 on: November 22, 2008, 10:06:30 PM »
direct replacement.  The rear sight should be easy enough to drift out with a brass punch, but I don't know how to do the front...

If it's a stock type slide, the front sight is staked into place.
You drill out the old sight and stake the new one in place.
There's a special modified pair of vise grips for the job as well as other special tools.

The other way (which I feel is nicer too) is to mill a dovetail in the slide and install a dovetailed front sight.
That's what I have done when replacing front sights.

I'd prefer to have the dovetail milled into the slide, just seems the better way to do it.  Is it expensive?  Can I ship you a slide?  Do you play with the 1911's??

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Re: Thread about nothing #2
« Reply #13626 on: November 22, 2008, 10:07:12 PM »
Hey Ross...

Check it out.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/homicidereport/2008/10/hawaiian-garden.html

Thats after it first happend.  He's in LA Sheriff custody now.  Most likely lookin at alot of time.  Rumor has it that the victim came looking for him for an altercation, and ended up getting stabbed in the end. I dont know for sure.  I tend to steer clear from all the politics of what happend.  I dont wanna get caught up myself.  Shit, I got kids bro.  Those days of mine are long gone.  Last time I got busted was in 2001?ish.  Im a good boy now.

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Re: Thread about nothing #2
« Reply #13627 on: November 22, 2008, 10:07:31 PM »
For Jacque and his new Glock
Be sure to pass your curser over the parts list to see the different ones.

http://www.sniperworld.com/content.a...ld_Glock_Index

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Re: Thread about nothing #2
« Reply #13629 on: November 22, 2008, 10:13:57 PM »
direct replacement.  The rear sight should be easy enough to drift out with a brass punch, but I don't know how to do the front...

If it's a stock type slide, the front sight is staked into place.
You drill out the old sight and stake the new one in place.
There's a special modified pair of vise grips for the job as well as other special tools.

The other way (which I feel is nicer too) is to mill a dovetail in the slide and install a dovetailed front sight.
That's what I have done when replacing front sights.

I'd prefer to have the dovetail milled into the slide, just seems the better way to do it.  Is it expensive?  Can I ship you a slide?  Do you play with the 1911's??
I'm interested as well if you can mill the slide bro

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Re: Thread about nothing #2
« Reply #13630 on: November 22, 2008, 10:14:10 PM »
Randall (or anybody): how familiar are you with the chain of supply in the gun biz?
Most common way
Is it:
Manufacturer - > Distributor -> Dealer -> Retail
or
MFG -> Dlr -> Retail

It works both ways.
With standardized items, it's usually sold through distributors who make larger orders and therefore demand more margin.
The big mail order dealers act as distributors.
Take midway for example, they buy manufacturer direct and re-sell to retail stores as well as direct to the public.
Retail stores usually order from dedicated wholsale distributors though.

With custom items, like AR's where they are built to order, it's normally mfg-dealer.
Then the manufacturers also sell "standard" items to the distributors.
Your typical gun store that you walk into will just stock things available from distributors.

Distributors are a very valuable way to get your product in front of the shops who would not otherwise find your product if you only sell direct to dealers.
Of course you have to weigh that additional margin to decide if it's worth it for the extra sales that the distributors would potentially generate.
All the big distributors do promotion to the shops.
They send out monthly sales flyers promoting new products and listing specials etc.
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Re: Thread about nothing #2
« Reply #13631 on: November 22, 2008, 10:14:41 PM »
IIRC, isnt it only a crime to sell them, not buy them?

yes.
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Re: Thread about nothing #2
« Reply #13632 on: November 22, 2008, 10:15:15 PM »
http://www.lasdblog.org/Pressrelease/PR_Folder/08-310-00.pdf

no good news yet.  The story of your neighbor and the ATF raid is making the rounds on the net, it showed up on pirate 4x4

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Re: Thread about nothing #2
« Reply #13633 on: November 22, 2008, 10:17:07 PM »
Randall (or anybody): how familiar are you with the chain of supply in the gun biz?
Most common way
Is it:
Manufacturer - > Distributor -> Dealer -> Retail
or
MFG -> Dlr -> Retail

It works both ways.
With standardized items, it's usually sold through distributors who make larger orders and therefore demand more margin.
The big mail order dealers act as distributors.
Take midway for example, they buy manufacturer direct and re-sell to retail stores as well as direct to the public.
Retail stores usually order from dedicated wholsale distributors though.

With custom items, like AR's where they are built to order, it's normally mfg-dealer.
Then the manufacturers also sell "standard" items to the distributors.
Your typical gun store that you walk into will just stock things available from distributors.

Distributors are a very valuable way to get your product in front of the shops who would not otherwise find your product if you only sell direct to dealers.
Of course you have to weigh that additional margin to decide if it's worth it for the extra sales that the distributors would potentially generate.
All the big distributors do promotion to the shops.
They send out monthly sales flyers promoting new products and listing specials etc.

so, if you include stickers with the kit, I'll stick one on my work truck.  50k miles a year all over SD county

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Re: Thread about nothing #2
« Reply #13634 on: November 22, 2008, 10:17:07 PM »
I'd prefer to have the dovetail milled into the slide, just seems the better way to do it.  Is it expensive?  Can I ship you a slide?  Do you play with the 1911's??

Slides are just parts.
I do a limited amount of pistolsmithing, but I am getting more and more into it.
I don't know what I would charge, need to look-up what common prices for the job are.
I would need the sight with the slide of course as the slide gets cut to fit the front sight.
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Re: Thread about nothing #2
« Reply #13635 on: November 22, 2008, 10:18:19 PM »
http://www.lasdblog.org/Pressrelease/PR_Folder/08-310-00.pdf

no good news yet.  The story of your neighbor and the ATF raid is making the rounds on the net, it showed up on pirate 4x4


Really! Damn, how shit gets around huh. Well, its all true.  I got all my info from the dude himself.  He says that when they drive somewhere, and his 5 y/o sees a cop, he ducks.  Sucks man, the ones he should trust the most, he's scared to death of.

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Re: Thread about nothing #2
« Reply #13636 on: November 22, 2008, 10:19:30 PM »
Ross, got a linky to the 4x4 site?

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Re: Thread about nothing #2
« Reply #13637 on: November 22, 2008, 10:20:11 PM »
I'd prefer to have the dovetail milled into the slide, just seems the better way to do it.  Is it expensive?  Can I ship you a slide?  Do you play with the 1911's??

Slides are just parts.
I do a limited amount of pistolsmithing, but I am getting more and more into it.
I don't know what I would charge, need to look-up what common prices for the job are.
I would need the sight with the slide of course as the slide gets cut to fit the front sight.

do you stock the front sights?

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Re: Thread about nothing #2
« Reply #13638 on: November 22, 2008, 10:20:29 PM »
here is the list, I still need to get this stuff.

Stainless barrel (for shooting lead bullets)
Bomar rear sight
Dawson fiber optic front sight
Glock extended slide release
JP extended magazine release
3.5lb connector
reduced power striker spring
stock striker lightened by about 40%
extra power trigger spring
 Dawson heavy magazine well

That list looks quite familiar.



How do you know that's what you want?
Your 34 should already have a 3.5lb connector, extended magazine release (not the JP though) and the glock extended slide release.
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Re: Thread about nothing #2
« Reply #13639 on: November 22, 2008, 10:22:26 PM »
For Jacque and his new Glock
Be sure to pass your curser over the parts list to see the different ones.

http://www.sniperworld.com/content.a...ld_Glock_Index

bad link
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Re: Thread about nothing #2
« Reply #13640 on: November 22, 2008, 10:22:36 PM »
Marcelo, Sorensen,

I found a guy with rebuild kits, he insisted shipping the mag to CA was fine because they were pre-bans.  He couldn't get his head wrapped around the rebuild kit idea.

I just stopped communication

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Re: Thread about nothing #2
« Reply #13641 on: November 22, 2008, 10:24:48 PM »
here is the list, I still need to get this stuff.

Stainless barrel (for shooting lead bullets)
Bomar rear sight
Dawson fiber optic front sight
Glock extended slide release
JP extended magazine release
3.5lb connector
reduced power striker spring
stock striker lightened by about 40%
extra power trigger spring
 Dawson heavy magazine well

That list looks quite familiar.



How do you know that's what you want?
Your 34 should already have a 3.5lb connector, extended magazine release (not the JP though) and the glock extended slide release.

That's the list your gave me.

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Re: Thread about nothing #2
« Reply #13642 on: November 22, 2008, 10:25:15 PM »
do you stock the front sights?

No.
WAY too many options.
I can order almost anything though.
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Re: Thread about nothing #2
« Reply #13644 on: November 22, 2008, 10:26:36 PM »
do you stock the front sights?

No.
WAY too many options.
I can order almost anything though.

no hurt feelings if I order my own with my FFL03 discount then?

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Re: Thread about nothing #2
« Reply #13645 on: November 22, 2008, 10:27:17 PM »
That is a nice piece - I can't believe it's still around, just like the others we're looking at - I had PM the guy wanting 2 of them but how to do it - He's in Hemet, Riverside County -

What do you thinks of this Leutenant,  Saigon?
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=128655

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Re: Thread about nothing #2
« Reply #13646 on: November 22, 2008, 10:27:19 PM »
I found a guy with rebuild kits, he insisted shipping the mag to CA was fine because they were pre-bans.

He just does not realize that CA has it's own laws and that pre-ban mags are not allowed to be sold here.
There are other states which have mag bans, but pre-ban mags are still ok to sell.
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Re: Thread about nothing #2
« Reply #13647 on: November 22, 2008, 10:28:22 PM »
That's the list your gave me.

Don't just go from my list!
You need to go look at parts...
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Re: Thread about nothing #2
« Reply #13648 on: November 22, 2008, 10:29:01 PM »
Marcelo, Sorensen,

I found a guy with rebuild kits, he insisted shipping the mag to CA was fine because they were pre-bans.  He couldn't get his head wrapped around the rebuild kit idea.

I just stopped communication

Its not illegal for you to buy. 

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« Reply #13649 on: November 22, 2008, 10:29:03 PM »
He's an outsider - He doesn't care about "our" laws - Besides, how will it be proven what he did -

Marcelo, Sorensen,

I found a guy with rebuild kits, he insisted shipping the mag to CA was fine because they were pre-bans.  He couldn't get his head wrapped around the rebuild kit idea.

I just stopped communication