another thing, back in my crime fighter days, I NEVER pulled out a knife, bat, or other weapon. I was always down to get'tum up. Mano a mano. Still am too. Actually, I cracked some tweaker in the mouth with my mag light for trying to run up to my window at a traffic light while I was loaded down with my family. Waht was I supposed to do. I wasnt gonna get off my truck with it running and all, just to punk this dude with my family in the truck watching, so i just rolled the window down and reached out and "touched" him accross the mouth with the maglite. Light turned green, and we took off. The end of that.