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Offline swalt

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EM2 gets tagged teamed.....
« on: December 04, 2024, 11:05:38 PM »
Just for bringing up a newly released report on COVID on that other site!  He was trying to be so respectful to the rules over there, just trying to bring it up for discussion and gets jumped!  Soy #1 "I don't see the 2A tie in!"  Owner jumps in with "well in Asia they wear masks because of SAR and...." EM2 tries to respond from the report.  Soy #2 "So you're OK with threads with zero 2A relevance...."  1 other member tries to respond with his experience during COVID but the thread really becomes all about the owners rules and a suggestion on adding a feature on the site so only threads show up that one wants, who is being rude and who isn't and the owner freely opining on his views.  EM2 tried so hard but got jumped instead, even told by a admin "this is a 2A place if you don't like it go someplace else."  LMAO!! Of course this is only a synopsis/paraphrase but that other site is tyrannical with the owner riding herd. The thread made it up to 32 posts, doubt it goes further.   Should I post the link?   :D

 

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Re: EM2 gets tagged teamed.....
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2024, 11:30:29 PM »
This is why I won't even join that site.  Why bother supporting something that's platform is an anti-1A format because they don't want their liberal viewpoints challenged in any way?  COVID and the aftermath was a horrible attack on our country and things that went wrong must be corrected with laws so they never happen again.  It NEEDS to be discussed and light brought to the evil that occurred so it can be prevented in the future.

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Re: EM2 gets tagged teamed.....
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2024, 11:53:57 PM »
This is why I won't even join that site.  Why bother supporting something that's platform is an anti-1A format because they don't want their liberal viewpoints challenged in any way?  COVID and the aftermath was a horrible attack on our country and things that went wrong must be corrected with laws so they never happen again.  It NEEDS to be discussed and light brought to the evil that occurred so it can be prevented in the future.

Notice that during COVID anyone questioning the narrative were silenced and now are being silenced again for bringing up new findings.  Who is doing the silencing in both cases??

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Re: EM2 gets tagged teamed.....
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2024, 12:38:40 AM »
someone should ask how much they support the martial law in south korea.  ;D

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Re: EM2 gets tagged teamed.....
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2024, 12:39:13 AM »
This is why I won't even join that site.  Why bother supporting something that's platform is an anti-1A format because they don't want their liberal viewpoints challenged in any way?  COVID and the aftermath was a horrible attack on our country and things that went wrong must be corrected with laws so they never happen again.  It NEEDS to be discussed and light brought to the evil that occurred so it can be prevented in the future.

Notice that during COVID anyone questioning the narrative were silenced and now are being silenced again for bringing up new findings.  Who is doing the silencing in both cases??

Yeah, that's all going to change in a little over a month.  And here in CA we've got Bonta and Newscum running around saying they will invoke lawfare against Trump's admin to stop any/all of his policy decisions. (facepalm emoji)

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Re: EM2 gets tagged teamed.....
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2024, 01:39:00 AM »
New "laws" won't necessarily keep it from happening again.  They might help.  But, just like everything else, laws, locks, and signs only keep the honest from straying.

As I've said about the other site, it's their piece of work and they're entitled to it.  However, that doesn't mean I have to support it monetarily, via recommendation/specific mention, clicks, or in any other way.  The members over there talk as though they are 2nd Amendment zealots, but most are there for different reasons.

Among those reasons is the vitriol and hatred they claim to abhor about .net.  It's simply directed differently.  While I agree that there is some of that on .net, there's a reason for OT and it being member only.  There's also a reason we talk about 'changing the channel' if you don't agree with what's on at the moment.

It's just like the owner over there considering Hunter Biden to be "2nd Amendment related," yet not seeing how COVID was.  What was that about lockdowns and lawsuits over who/what was 'essential?'  What was that about COVID and 'gun violence?'  (If you don't get that reference, simply enter 'COVID and firearms' in a Google search string and see what comes up.)  The owner further enhanced his rather 'blindered' and 'partitioned' view of what involves the 2nd Amendment later in the thread by 'chastising' another .net member with regard to 'talking about politicians and pardons' rather than the actual case.  He even tried to change the subject to what members did over the weekend or would you do the same for your family to 'humanize' the discourse.

What it came down to for the owner was the main point being don't lie on your DROS.  Uh... Nope.  It's about the unequal enforcement, the pejorative or permissive use of both laws and Executive/Legislative/Judicial Power, and whether both sides use those powers in such ways when it comes to the 2nd Amendment (and other rights).  If you don't get that, then ask yourself a simple question: "Why must one answer loaded questions to exercise a Constitutional right?"  It's not about the owner being hypocritical in terms of what he allows or doesn't allow in relation to discussions.  It's about the owner lacking a sense of perspective in terms of how things relate and interrelate.  Just like the owner, somehow, thinking Trump will be as egregiously bad by pardoning himself for this 34 felony convictions; evidently not being aware that, Constitutionally, Trump can't pardon himself on state-level convictions, only Federal charges.

What was that about moral equivalence and 'orange man bad?'  What was that about infusing personal sentiments into arguments and turning them into fusillades against individuals?

In a sense, even the enforcement on .net is "uneven" and anyone who doesn't think so isn't keeping up.  It's just that Kestryll and most of the moderators have a better sense for how far things extend or can be extended or will be extended than the owner of the 'other site.'  Put in a nutshell, he wants a 'safe space' for himself and doesn't feel open to discourse which involves anything he feels 'uncomfortable' with, relevant or not.  If it tweaks his 'comfort,' he finds a way to make it appear 'bad.'  That's an exercise of power which I don't feel comfortable with when discussing Constitutional Rights.  (As I also said on another thread, it brings to mind questions as to what the owner might support by way of gun laws and why.)   

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Re: EM2 gets tagged teamed.....
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2024, 02:09:26 AM »
They are such pussies
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Re: EM2 gets tagged teamed.....
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2024, 05:17:34 AM »
I bet I can identify at least one of the 2 "Soy" gents referenced above in Mr. Swalt's post without going to that site.  A very critical gent toward .Net and it's members.

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Re: EM2 gets tagged teamed.....
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2024, 05:35:39 AM »
Just for bringing up a newly released report on COVID on that other site!  He was trying to be so respectful to the rules over there, just trying to bring it up for discussion and gets jumped!  Soy #1 "I don't see the 2A tie in!"  Owner jumps in with "well in Asia they wear masks because of SAR and...." EM2 tries to respond from the report.  Soy #2 "So you're OK with threads with zero 2A relevance...."  1 other member tries to respond with his experience during COVID but the thread really becomes all about the owners rules and a suggestion on adding a feature on the site so only threads show up that one wants, who is being rude and who isn't and the owner freely opining on his views.  EM2 tried so hard but got jumped instead, even told by a admin "this is a 2A place if you don't like it go someplace else."  LMAO!! Of course this is only a synopsis/paraphrase but that other site is tyrannical with the owner riding herd. The thread made it up to 32 posts, doubt it goes further.   Should I post the link?   :D


Thanks for the summary.

I was testing the waters over there and they failed miserably.
Censorship seems to be the preferred mode of control rather than robust debate.
Also, it seems their feelings get hurt easily and they attribute disagreement to rudeness.
They frequently project their own reaction onto others, they thought I had thought others as being rude, which is not true, and I had to twice correct them on that specific point.

All in all it was an interesting exercise.





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Re: EM2 gets tagged teamed.....
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2024, 05:42:17 AM »
The racoon was trying to appear fair all the while discussing with others how to best censor the discussion without appearing to censor the discussion.
They are considering setting some sort of tag that would remove certain discussions from the main page recent post list, effectively ghosting the thread, you would need to already know it exists to find it.
I pointed out the issue and they proceeded to go into full rationalization mode.

The covid report only made up about 25% of the thread, at best.

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Re: EM2 gets tagged teamed.....
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2024, 05:43:15 AM »
You did well, and respectful Mr. Em2. Very good.

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Re: EM2 gets tagged teamed.....
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2024, 07:10:33 AM »
Liberal bums!!

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Re: EM2 gets tagged teamed.....
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2024, 08:26:08 AM »
I've never understood why some folks complain about a thread topic.  If the topic doesn't interest you or there is an objection to it, don't read it.

If "sticky posts" that may be informational to a particular thread is ignored, certainly a thread that is of no interest shouldn't be to hard to ignore.

Control?  See me, here I am?

Just a senseless rant, sorry.

Kyle

 



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Re: EM2 gets tagged teamed.....
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2024, 08:31:50 AM »
Interesting that the thread devolved down to admin's desire to give their sensitive members the ability to hide topics that scare them, enhancing their "safe space". Their members have no self control to skip over uncomfortable topics and demand admin remove them from view. Why? Because "feelz".

« Last Edit: December 05, 2024, 08:39:52 AM by Pinto »

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Re: EM2 gets tagged teamed.....
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2024, 08:49:48 AM »
Did the thread get nuked? I don't see it over there.

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Re: EM2 gets tagged teamed.....
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2024, 09:17:38 AM »
Did the thread get nuked? I don't see it over there.

Its still there, in the current events forum.

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Re: EM2 gets tagged teamed.....
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2024, 09:52:32 AM »
OK found it. Seems like they have a problem with the source of the article (Breitbart) than with the subject itself. But Ikeo uses the typical strawman argument of "well other people do it, so it must be ok." From there the thread is further derailed by other members who think everything on the site should be 2A related. Overall it seems like ikeo's lack of transparency or maybe just him experimenting with his user base is causing issues like this.

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Re: EM2 gets tagged teamed.....
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2024, 04:06:54 PM »
Those soyboy libtards are already setting up shadow banning mechanisms? Why not just outright ban people instead of being a sniveling sneaking little punk?

Bunch of Zuckerbergs over there trying to appear one way while acting another.
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Re: EM2 gets tagged teamed.....
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2024, 10:15:19 AM »
OK found it. Seems like they have a problem with the source of the article (Breitbart) than with the subject itself. But Ikeo uses the typical strawman argument of "well other people do it, so it must be ok." From there the thread is further derailed by other members who think everything on the site should be 2A related. Overall it seems like ikeo's lack of transparency or maybe just him experimenting with his user base is causing issues like this.

Its funny. They want a pure 2A site yet I constantly see even the owner bring non 2a stuff in the mix. What the owner was trying to say is masks work in other Countries but failed to acknowledge or bring up was the fauchi effect which was to social distance, close businesses and control people.

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Re: EM2 gets tagged teamed.....
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2024, 12:02:12 PM »
OK found it. Seems like they have a problem with the source of the article (Breitbart) than with the subject itself. But Ikeo uses the typical strawman argument of "well other people do it, so it must be ok." From there the thread is further derailed by other members who think everything on the site should be 2A related. Overall it seems like ikeo's lack of transparency or maybe just him experimenting with his user base is causing issues like this.

Its funny. They want a pure 2A site yet I constantly see even the owner bring non 2a stuff in the mix. What the owner was trying to say is masks work in other Countries but failed to acknowledge or bring up was the fauchi effect which was to social distance, close businesses and control people.

That is the gist of the whole argument and the reason for bringing it up.  Do masks work or not and it doesn't matter what country they are used in.  But the racoon has a problem with anyone talking about anything he doesn't agree with.  Its fine if he doesn't want non 2A related issues on his platform but he does when it suits him.  IMO masks do very little, all they do is redirect air when exhaling.  They direct air up, down, and sideways instead of straight forward and do not filter the virus laden breath.  They prevent someone from exhaling directly into someones face but thats it.  The virus just gets redirected into the air and that gets breathed in by others.  But no discussion is allowed though because racoon man wears them, he thinks they are a good idea and that is that.