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Server Move and Outage Reports / Re: Down again?
« on: February 12, 2016, 01:15:26 PM »
The great Calguns outage of 2016?

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Handguns / Re: Sig P238
« on: November 25, 2015, 05:34:09 PM »
I thought the HD was a steel frame and the two-tone is alloy (aluminum). I handled both at a gun shop a couple days ago. Sweet little guns. Want one for ccw.

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General Gun Discussion / Re: FMJ or other non jhp/hp ammo for defense?
« on: November 24, 2015, 09:50:56 PM »
AHHHH! I know. I also need a Sig P238, Springfield MC Operator and a Ruger Match Champion.

Yeah there's no reason to use FMJ nowadays. If the gun can't cycle JHPs, get it fixed or get a new gun. My carry guns are loaded with Federal HST. I used to carry Hydra Shok but it's just not very efficient when it come to clothing blocking it up. Just picked up 250 rounds of Golden Saber with the Remington rebate this month. $57 shipped for 250 rounds of 40 and 45 after rebate. Could not pass that up.

I think that .380 is the very bare minimum for a defensive round. It's really about the lowest powered pistol round that can expand AND reach about 12" of penetration and even then with only a few types of bullet. Any caliber that needs FMJ to reach minimum penetration is inadequate. Yeah yeah. Hundreds of people a year are shot deader than a doornail with 22lr every year, but I'm sure many more survive. Only way I could justify carrying a 22, 25 or 32 is if I was carrying something else at the same time.

Well I'd rather carry a 25acp than nothing at all, but yes it's definitely not ideal. And those hundreds of deer killed with 22lr every year, are killed after meticulously placed shots, very little adrenaline and zero fear, and nothin' but time to line up the shot. If you have those luxuries with a bad guy, well, you'd have a heck of a time convincing a jury that it was self-defense.

25 and 32s are more or less novelty guns in the 21st century. I'm sure there are some guys carrying around a 100 year old .25 Baby Browning but again, 100 years old. A .25 is probably marginally better than a knife. I doubt the jury would get a chance to hear my side of the story once I got killed after shooting the bad guy 6 times. Sure, he'd bleed out in the hospital several hours later, but that's not going to help me any!  :)

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Rifles / Re: SoCom .458 mags?
« on: November 24, 2015, 09:26:06 PM »
Ebay? Or... Just get a set of steel stamps and hammer it into the floorplate. Harbor freight sells a set for $10-15 bucks. Use a pencil to mark straight lines, should take no more than a couple min per floorplate. 458 SOCOM. Done.

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General Gun Discussion / Re: FMJ or other non jhp/hp ammo for defense?
« on: November 24, 2015, 09:16:16 PM »
You NEED a glock 20!

Ya I can't see using anything other than JHP's for personal defense at home and around town. The only exception being maybe .380, where JHP's don't have much penetration. Xtreme Defenders might be a good choice for that cartridge. But for 9mm and up, JHP's are the tried-and-true answer. Honestly, it's borderline irresponsible to use FMJ in the city, too much risk of overpenetrating and hitting someone else. Plus it just isn't very effective - tiny hole and very little energy transfer. If you don't hit the heart, brain, or spine, the bad guy will just keep going. Those are very small targets when you're panicking. Better odds of ending the fight sooner when the holes are bigger - even if you miss the vitals, the trauma alone would be enough to stop the guy in most cases where the perp isn't heavily drugged up (in those cases, heart, brain, and spine trauma are the only game enders)

AHHHH! I know. I also need a Sig P238, Springfield MC Operator and a Ruger Match Champion.

Yeah there's no reason to use FMJ nowadays. If the gun can't cycle JHPs, get it fixed or get a new gun. My carry guns are loaded with Federal HST. I used to carry Hydra Shok but it's just not very efficient when it come to clothing blocking it up. Just picked up 250 rounds of Golden Saber with the Remington rebate this month. $57 shipped for 250 rounds of 40 and 45 after rebate. Could not pass that up.

I think that .380 is the very bare minimum for a defensive round. It's really about the lowest powered pistol round that can expand AND reach about 12" of penetration and even then with only a few types of bullet. Any caliber that needs FMJ to reach minimum penetration is inadequate. Yeah yeah. Hundreds of people a year are shot deader than a doornail with 22lr every year, but I'm sure many more survive. Only way I could justify carrying a 22, 25 or 32 is if I was carrying something else at the same time.

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General Gun Discussion / Re: FMJ or other non jhp/hp ammo for defense?
« on: November 24, 2015, 08:16:27 PM »
I doubt I'll have occasion to carry anything other than JHP anytime soon. At most I'd buy some .40 hard cast from Underwood. I really want a Glock 20 but since two legged predators are the only thing I'm worried about around here I wouldn't have much need for it. As if need dictates my gun purchases.  ::)

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Handguns / Re: What do you have in jail?
« on: November 24, 2015, 07:52:25 PM »
A Polish P64. Nice clean little gun.

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