Reopening Part Duex

[Kestryll]

We have a more powerful server, twice the CPU and four times the RAM.

I'm kind of afraid to say this but... let's stress test this thing!

[PeteButtigieg]

It's taking about a minute for pages to load as of right now.  One of mine just got a 504 gateway timeout...

[kyle1886]

Forty second to get to front page.

Thanks for the work, it's appreciated.

Respectfully
Kyle

[kyle1886]

Nine seconds to open Announcements & Suggestions.

I have not tried posting anything.

Kyle
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Another try:
Gateway time out clicking on a thread.

[kyle1886]

Thirty- three sec. for thread "Reopened with caveats" to open.

Kyle

[TrappedinCalifornia]

I can't seem to post to a COVID section thread in reply to a post made on 8/27.

I keep getting a 403 error and anything that I copy/paste has this added to it... zz0.5im0hx86svezz.

Addendum: I eliminated the quote and the hyperlink and, while slow, it did post.  I'll try another post on something and see if it's the quote (copy/paste) or the hyperlink.

Addendum Part Two: I added a quote, posted, then added an hyperlink in OT and it went smoothly, though slowly.  I went back to the COVID section and tried adding a more complete quote and an hyperlink and ran into all kinds of issues, including a 504 timeout error.  I eventually got the quote/hyperlink posted, including a correction to the quote; but, it wasn't smooth sailing.

So... Perhaps, it has to do with what section you're in or what's included in the quote or where the sun is positioned in the sky or the punctuation (ellipses?) or how I was holding my mouth or... who knows.

Addendum Part Three: About two minutes ago, I got a Gateway error and can't bring the site back up.

You wanted to stress it out.  It appears stressed, at least for me.   

[SDM44]

As others have said, taking at last 60-80 seconds before a page opens.  Or after that time, you get the 503 Gateway error and have to reload it.

Ironically, the Message Center loads up really fast within a couple of seconds.  However, all of the messages are gone.... which kind of sucks as I wanted to follow up with a member who was selling some parts.  Can't remember who that was, nor can I find it in the search (if it doesn't time out).

[Kestryll]

Believe me, I am aware it's still slow, stumped but aware.

I don't think it's a hardware issue, on the first server (4 core/32GB RAM) the cpu was pegged at 100%. This server (8 core/128GB RAM) is running at about 55-65%.
I'm thinking the issue is either a software issue with vBulletin, that they did something to the database to use it on their cloud servers or that it needs some form of server optimization.

A forum member who works in the field has offered help and I've reached out to him.

[Kestryll]

However, all of the messages are gone....

Wait, what? All your PMs are gone? Shit.

[gcvt]

New yoga pant pic is up! 

[TheGood]

THE WEBSITE IS UNDER A BOT ATTACK!!

Notice that when you doubled the size of the server, the number of 'guests' also doubled.  Now there are over 4200 'guests' on .NET in the middle of the night (3:30 AM PDT).

Please lock the forum so nobody without a login can get onto the forums.  Once that's done, THEN let's test the site to see how fast it is. 

We never should have 4k 'lurkers' the site should be for ACTIVE MEMBERS who wish to login.

[SDM44]

However, all of the messages are gone....

Wait, what? All your PMs are gone? Shit.

It's weird.  I can see the preview of the most recent PMs when I click on Messages at the top of the page.  If I click on one of those messages, it opens up a new window with the message thread and I can reply to them.




However, when I go into the Message Center down below there's nothing in there so I can't see anything past my most recent messages.

[swalt]

However, all of the messages are gone....

Wait, what? All your PMs are gone? Shit.  <-----

Whats that!?

 

[mikee1]

It is taking minutes to load if it does.

[jgerfers]

9/5/24
At 5am the site zips for one page to another very fast. At am I get time out very inconsistent almost like band width limits during certain hours. Not a expert by no means just an observation.

[dracer]

cant get on the main page times out , have tried 3 different browsers for over half hr

[TrappedinCalifornia]

I don't know if this helps or just comes across as another irritant...

I was just on .NET and it was an interesting experience.  I posted a reply to the Paul Harrell thread and had to open a second tab to see that it posted since the original didn't go anyplace.  It posted, but the thread didn't bump up.  I then posted a new thread, again, I believe in the original tab and it didn't go anywhere either; but, looking in the 2nd tab, it had posted and was at the top of the OT threads.  (Both threads were in OT.)  So, two different tabs, two entirely different performances from the site.

[TheGood]

I don't know if this helps or just comes across as another irritant...

I was just on .NET and it was an interesting experience.  I posted a reply to the Paul Harrell thread and had to open a second tab to see that it posted since the original didn't go anyplace.  It posted, but the thread didn't bump up.  I then posted a new thread, again, I believe in the original tab and it didn't go anywhere either; but, looking in the 2nd tab, it had posted and was at the top of the OT threads.  (Both threads were in OT.)  So, two different tabs, two entirely different performances from the site.

I had something similar happen.  One tab allowed me to navigate OT with no problems, a second tab was asking me to login with no access to OT until I did.

.NET is getting more strange, it's fast briefly and then long periods of 'Gateway Timeout' errors.  There's something seriously wrong, it's either under attack, hacked from within, database problems, or all of the above. 

[AR15barrels]

We have a more powerful server, twice the CPU and four times the RAM.

I'm kind of afraid to say this but... let's stress test this thing!

It does not appear to have helped much except late at night when most are sleeping.

[skyhawk]

It is still badly broken.  The parts cannon is not going to fix this one. There is a serious database issue / query (and/or insert) issue.  Better hardware will help but only after the root software problem is addressed.

Compounding the issue is horrid forum code.  It is just garbage, the folks at VB completely ruined it. Even if it was working flawlessly it is so bass-ackwards as to make your head spin.  Everything that was ever good about this forum software is gone.  I cannot name one single thing that is better, at least for the user.

At this point I wonder if it is even worth pursuing the fix... it may be time to cut bait on vBulletin. If it is not possible to roll all the way back to when Calguns Vb4 worked 100% (before the host move that broke the database character set), then maybe start looking at new forum software and someone to migrate as much as possible into it.

[ohsmily]

Maybe Ramon will come back like a prodigal son and redeem this clusterF...ha.

[microwaveguy]

It seems as if everytime there is a change it becomes even more unusable.  Here we are a 4 am and it still times out. At this point it just might be worth going back to the  April database and making that run vs trying to sort out the current database. It's not a very good option but at least it would maybe run better than what the server is dealing with now.  The longer this goes the more users are just going to give up on Calguns and head somewhere else.

[kyle1886]

.Net ran well for about 40 minutes this AM ( a bit after 0400 to 0445hrs) before I got the boot (gateway).  I knew it was coming because I started getting the "WORKING" text.  Usually when that pops up, "gateway" error is soon to follow.

Kyle

ETA: ...and at 0528hrs...still 504 gateway error.

[TheGood]

It seems as if everytime there is a change it becomes even more unusable.  Here we are a 4 am and it still times out. At this point it just might be worth going back to the  April database and making that run vs trying to sort out the current database. It's not a very good option but at least it would maybe run better than what the server is dealing with now.  The longer this goes the more users are just going to give up on Calguns and head somewhere else.

Yeah, I've been wondering the same, if it would actually be better to roll back to the pre-migration software/database and then try to move forward on a new non-vBulletin platform.

[TrappedinCalifornia]

I've been trying for the last 15 minutes to get to/on .net.

I'm not even getting a 504 Gateway Error message.  In fact, I don't seem to be making any kind of connection at all.  The address changes in the URL box, but then I simply end up in an endless spin.

At least, yesterday, I'd usually get 504 messages.  Today, simply dead air since this morning.

Oh well, other things need to get done. 

ETA: Now I understand (maybe) why there's so much kvetching.  I posted the above and immediately got access to .net after signing off.  Signed in, read a couple of posts, signed off, went to an unrelated site for a few minutes, went back to .net, signed in, posted, and signed off.  No fuss, no muss. 

Well, Kestryll did post over there during that time.  Maybe it takes his kind of svelte to make things happen.   

[TrappedinCalifornia]

Things are working for me right now on .net; but, it's early morning.

No errors.  Click and you're there.  I'm not holding my breath to see how long that lasts.

Right now, it's 73 Members and 4,880 Guests.

Yep.  The home page is way behind (several hours) on updating some sections, OT being one of them. 

The home page shows the most recent post in OT being 9/10/24 @ 12:37 pm and there are a whole lot of posts which have been added since then.

Another example is the RIP RandyD thread - https://www.calguns.net/forum/general-discussion/the-off-topic-discussion-lounge/54259521-rip-randyd .  It has 24 posts, but the OT home page shows only 4 responses.

Again, not complaining.  Just trying to clarify what I'm seeing in an effort the help.

[SDM44]

.net has been working great for me lately, and pages are loading fast.  However, I can't post anything or send any PMs or start any conversations with people. 

I tried sending a few people messages from their classified ads but keep getting the 504 error message pop up below.  I also get the same error pop up when I try to post to any thread. 

I can only view but can't edit, post, or message anyone.  Anyone else having this problem?

[swalt]

Same old thing, works great for a bit then the wheels fall off.  The amount of time of it working great seems to be getting longer but the frustration factor is just the same.  Just now back to 504 and it was sputtering for a bit before that.

[GOEX FFF]

Haven't been able to get on .net all morning.
Site just lags and eventually get the same ole'  page can't be reached....etc. Then it 504s.

[TheGood]

Yeah, it's almost like clockwork, 8AM and the site goes down.  Almost like... THE SITE IS HACKED, AND SOMEONE WANTS IT TO BE NON-USABLE.