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Offline sigfan91

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WTF is wrong with .net site?
« on: February 14, 2026, 12:48:24 PM »
It was getting better last week.  Then it got worse again.  The authentication service started to have problems yesterday.  Today the server was on and off.

And I forgot this site has this weird problem with apostrophes cutting off everything after.
« Last Edit: February 14, 2026, 05:09:04 PM by sigfan91 »

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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2026, 03:43:13 PM »
Done for good??

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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2026, 05:59:44 PM »
Same here, cannot get on


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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2026, 06:17:14 PM »
I was just on.

There is a thread in OT asking what's going on as the issues have become increasingly frustrating over the last couple of days.

I surfed around a bit.  This time, it didn't take multiple log in attempts, but it was fairly slow going.  Some assume it has to do with the authentication service, others simply accept that it's another glitch, etc.  In other words, without word from above, nobody really knows what is wrong.

All anyone does know is that the site... sort of... functions, but less so than has been the case recently.  Thus, pronouncing it 'dead' isn't correct.  Pronouncing that it is having issues isn't anything new.  Pronouncing that it is, once again, having more issues than most have experienced recently is, seemingly, accurate.

One can take the high/hopeful road and say it's being worked on, thus...  One can take the low/doubter's road and complain.  Or... One can take the wait and see road, which is how most are acting in that none of us are likely to have an accurate answer until we're told, if we are.

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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2026, 06:18:19 PM »
Thought it was just me.

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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2026, 06:59:29 PM »
i run out of hair to pull! so i've accepted it as normal long time ago. :'(

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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2026, 07:29:05 PM »
I kept getting logged off this morning after almost every time after clicking a link. It also kept popping up with an error every time I tried to go to any page of a thread beyond the first if it didn

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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2026, 12:18:33 PM »
I guess I'm not alone in having the same problems.  I'll keep logging onto .net as long as it still allows me to.  But I'll say this, one of the owners last posts was along of the lines of "I don't know, its way above my paygrade and that is the way it will be".  That is the impression I have, he is too busy making a living.  So many have offered help but for whatever reason he doesn't accept it.  Pride?  "I'm going to fix it!" or something else? 

Perhaps, like many of us who had a lot of 2A hopes in CA 15 -20 years ago have seen how the game is being played simply know 2A is going to be a long slog and the CA organizing days of years ago are no more, the whole CA specific effort is just spinning the wheels just like in other Progressive Democrat strongholds, so .net isn't a priority?  For whatever reasons, its been over 3 years, that is painfully honest.

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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2026, 01:17:41 PM »
I guess I'm not alone in having the same problems.  I'll keep logging onto .net as long as it still allows me to.  But I'll say this, one of the owners last posts was along of the lines of "I don't know, its way above my paygrade and that is the way it will be".  That is the impression I have, he is too busy making a living.  So many have offered help but for whatever reason he doesn't accept it.  Pride?  "I'm going to fix it!" or something else? 

Perhaps, like many of us who had a lot of 2A hopes in CA 15 -20 years ago have seen how the game is being played simply know 2A is going to be a long slog and the CA organizing days of years ago are no more, the whole CA specific effort is just spinning the wheels just like in other Progressive Democrat strongholds, so .net isn't a priority?  For whatever reasons, its been over 3 years, that is painfully honest.

What I took from his last post is that he's trying to 'learn' how to work with the language(s), having never had to with the previous host.  It's all part of the problem.  I've never believed that the site was his primary responsibility in terms of income.  That means, his time is limited in terms of his personally dealing with the site's technical problems as family always comes first.

When you indicate that many have offered to help, bear in mind that there's a difference between someone in the cheap seats offering to help, someone who actually can help based on their technical knowledge, someone who has the time to actually help, and someone who offers to help, but has other agenda in mind.  If you're the owner, how do you determine who to trust?  It's just like the last two.  The first indicated he'd have it fixed quickly, then updated on the 'other' site, then effectively disappeared.  The current one who is 'helping' has indicated he's been inundated at work and hasn't had the time.

It's been a well established 'fact' or suspicion that there are forces, including Government agencies and competing sites, which would like to get their hands on information only available behind the curtain.  Thus, that's also a consideration.  In short, it's not simply about 'the owner doesn't see it as a priority and doesn't accept help.'  We know that, in fact, he HAS reached out to proffered assistance, both from software companies and from amongst the membership, and we're still where we're at.

With all that said, I agree to the following extent.  The site is reaching or has reached a point where a decision is going to have to be made to fish or cut bait.  While there are a number still active and many more who are occasionally active or who try to be, there is an ever-increasing number who are, in essence, moving on.  In many ways, .net is still FAR superior, in my opinion, to what the 'other' site is proffering when it comes to the 2nd Amendment and California.  But, if you can't access it or rarely can, it doesn't mean much to be 'better' and even if, like me, you have no intention to participate on a competitor's site, the reality is that, for many, they can't effectively participate on .net and haven't been able to for some time now.

As I said before, there is the positive, the negative, and the realistic in terms of how to view .net and what's going on.  Loyalty and tradition only go so far and that is measured by whether it goes both ways.  I'm not ready to 'give up' just yet; but, even for me, that time is coming.  Setbacks and issues were expected as they were bound to happen.  It's just that Life goes on and, at some point, we all have to go on with it.  Bearing in mind that one's individual, personal problems can be accommodated, up to a point, it also has to be borne in mind that EVERYONE has a personal life to lead, including with their own problems, issues, and level of tolerance.   
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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2026, 10:56:24 AM »
With AI help, he could fix the site in a weekend. Assuming it's code related.

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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2026, 11:34:09 AM »
With AI help, he could fix the site in a weekend. Assuming it's code related.

Could you please make the suggestion or ask to help him accomplish that?

SSL is not working now, also looks like there is also some sort of 'attack' going on because it's been showing 195,000 'guests' for a couple of days.

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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2026, 12:06:20 PM »
With AI help, he could fix the site in a weekend. Assuming it's code related.

Could you please make the suggestion or ask to help him accomplish that?

SSL is not working now, also looks like there is also some sort of 'attack' going on because it's been showing 195,000 'guests' for a couple of days.

I think the "attack" language is just a generic security message because the SSL can't be validated. Doesn't necessarily mean there is actually an attack on the site.
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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2026, 01:52:19 PM »

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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2026, 02:39:43 PM »
.NET is back up again, seems to be semi-stable and back down to a 'rational' number of Guests, at ~2300.

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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2026, 03:07:37 PM »
.NET is back up again, seems to be semi-stable and back down to a 'rational' number of Guests, at ~2300.

I just got this just now.

Your connection is not private
Attackers might be trying to steal your information from www.calguns.net (for example, passwords, messages, or credit cards). Learn more about this warning
net::ERR_CERT_AUTHORITY_INVALID
www.calguns.net normally uses encryption to protect your information. When Brave tried to connect to www.calguns.net this time, the website sent back unusual and incorrect credentials. This may happen when an attacker is trying to pretend to be www.calguns.net, or a Wi-Fi sign-in screen has interrupted the connection. Your information is still secure because Brave stopped the connection before any data was exchanged.

You cannot visit www.calguns.net right now because the website uses HSTS. Network errors and attacks are usually temporary, so this page will probably work later.

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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2026, 03:14:46 PM »
.NET is back up again, seems to be semi-stable and back down to a 'rational' number of Guests, at ~2300.

I just got this just now.

Your connection is not private
Attackers might be trying to steal your information from www.calguns.net (for example, passwords, messages, or credit cards). Learn more about this warning
net::ERR_CERT_AUTHORITY_INVALID
www.calguns.net normally uses encryption to protect your information. When Brave tried to connect to www.calguns.net this time, the website sent back unusual and incorrect credentials. This may happen when an attacker is trying to pretend to be www.calguns.net, or a Wi-Fi sign-in screen has interrupted the connection. Your information is still secure because Brave stopped the connection before any data was exchanged.

You cannot visit www.calguns.net right now because the website uses HSTS. Network errors and attacks are usually temporary, so this page will probably work later.

Strange, it was back up/running with no problems for about an hour, now I get the 504 Gateway Timeout error.

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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2026, 03:33:04 PM »

SSL is not working now, also looks like there is also some sort of 'attack' going on because it's been showing 195,000 'guests' for a couple of days.

I think the "attack" language is just a generic security message because the SSL can't be validated. Doesn't necessarily mean there is actually an attack on the site.

Sure seems like DoS attacks, they let it come up for air long enough to see if people are logging on again, then it goes down again.  If that's the case I'm pretty sure I know who's doing it.

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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2026, 03:39:47 PM »

SSL is not working now, also looks like there is also some sort of 'attack' going on because it's been showing 195,000 'guests' for a couple of days.

I think the "attack" language is just a generic security message because the SSL can't be validated. Doesn't necessarily mean there is actually an attack on the site.

Sure seems like DoS attacks, they let it come up for air long enough to see if people are logging on again, then it goes down again.  If that's the case I'm pretty sure I know who's doing it.

The cucks at cuckguns?

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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2026, 03:47:00 PM »
Or if a system is never maintained errors accumulate until no longer useable

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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2026, 03:57:52 PM »
Or if a system is never maintained errors accumulate until no longer useable

Without any effort to make the site more secure (pre-login page, or 3'rd party verification), we can't know which it is.  He hasn't even required new passwords, since before the site was migrated. 

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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2026, 04:01:17 PM »
Or if a system is never maintained errors accumulate until no longer useable
This^^^
It's pretty obvious Kes hasn't done anything in quite some time to fix .NET and apparently has no future plans to fix .NET.

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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2026, 05:08:49 PM »
OK the problem is the site is sending a self-signed certificate, which isn't trusted by any certificate authority that the browser uses to authenticate the SSL handshake. So either CGN got hacked or Kes added his own cert for whatever reason. Either way the site will be unreachable until he gets a real certificate.

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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2026, 06:10:03 PM »
OK the problem is the site is sending a self-signed certificate, which isn't trusted by any certificate authority that the browser uses to authenticate the SSL handshake. So either CGN got hacked or Kes added his own cert for whatever reason. Either way the site will be unreachable until he gets a real certificate.

Shouldn't that just result in a security warning, not a 504 timeout?  All I've had for the last 3 hours is gateway timeouts.

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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2026, 06:45:46 PM »
Calguns is working, it’s alive
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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2026, 06:46:24 PM »
I was just on over at .net and it was working pretty spiffy.

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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2026, 07:29:56 PM »
AAANNNDD It's down again...

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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2026, 09:16:12 PM »
Still down for me

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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2026, 12:35:30 AM »
Let it be known, right now, 2/17/2026 1234am PST, I have logged onto calguns.net website.

We shall see how long this lasts.

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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2026, 06:25:04 AM »
Still down as of now.

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Re: WTF is wrong with .net site?
« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2026, 07:31:15 AM »
it's working again and it's up right now.